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Thursday, June 02, 2005 8:31 PM Sue Moore
Go to the web site and click on the database. I started one on Christopher
Sr. It is a start with proof or where we got the information. Anyone can
add to it. I will keep adding as I have time.
The numbers are
1 for Christopher
1-01 children
1-01-01 children children
Each person will have a number that way and can be reference.
There is also a missing Rhodes database.
Under the files there are folders for Rockbridge, Jackson, Roane, Kanawha
and Botetourt. We can create as many as we need.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes-History@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Rhodes-History@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of annaroseburg
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:24 PM
To: Rhodes-History@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Rhodes-History] Re: The Christophers question
--- In Rhodes-History@yahoogroups.com, "JoAnn" <jones.j@p...> wrote:
> I agree with Betty, it seems like we are spinning our wheels in trying
> to find info on Christopher Rhodes. We all know how a story about the
> Indians can be enhanced and I am sure ours has been. I do have a copy
> of the original will, it only has Christopher, no George Christopher.
>
> I would like to see maybe a numbering system on these different Rhodes
> Families. Maybe like branch #1, #2 etc, I was in the Doughty
> Association and that was the way they did theirs. I like reading
> about all the Rhodes Families not just ours, but it does get
> confusing. We need to have a list someplace with each oldest member
> of the different Rhodes family and who is working on that line.
> Maybe post with that # in our subject line. Hopefully we could
> connect some of the families to each other!!!
>
> Kenneth, you and I go back a ways looking for your Sarah, I don't know
> if you remember or not. I still have my notes and I did find them,
> aren't you all proud of me! It was in 2000 when we first talk to each
> other on the RHODES-L.
> Let's get a little better organized and find Sarah, Christopher's
> parents, David Rhodes and all these other lost people.
I am all for a system and then we all know who is who, that we are looking
for.
There was a time when I could and would heve jumped in the car and headed
for wherever. Those days are over. I did drive after the first stroke, but
this last one has not been so kind. I do have some notes but cannot get to
them, so, might as well not have. My little corner of the kitchen will only
hold so much.
I have many lost people and always happy to find another. And always
glad to find another cousin.
Thursday, June 02, 2005 6:23 PM annaroseburg
--- In Rhodes-History@yahoogroups.com, "JoAnn" <jones.j@p...> wrote:
> I agree with Betty, it seems like we are spinning our wheels in
> trying to find info on Christopher Rhodes. We all know how a story
> about the Indians can be enhanced and I am sure ours has been. I do
> have a copy of the original will, it only has Christopher, no George
> Christopher.
>
> I would like to see maybe a numbering system on these different
> Rhodes Families. Maybe like branch #1, #2 etc, I was in the Doughty
> Association and that was the way they did theirs. I like reading
> about all the Rhodes Families not just ours, but it does get
> confusing. We need to have a list someplace with each oldest member
> of the different Rhodes family and who is working on that line.
> Maybe post with that # in our subject line. Hopefully we could
> connect some of the families to each other!!!
>
> Kenneth, you and I go back a ways looking for your Sarah, I don't
> know if you remember or not. I still have my notes and I did find
> them, aren't you all proud of me! It was in 2000 when we first talk
> to each other on the RHODES-L.
> Let's get a little better organized and find Sarah, Christopher's
> parents, David Rhodes and all these other lost people.
I am all for a system and then we all know who is who, that we are
looking for.
There was a time when I could and would heve jumped in the car and
headed for wherever. Those days are over. I did drive after the first
stroke, but this last one has not been so kind. I do have some notes
but cannot get to them, so, might as well not have. My little corner
of the kitchen will only hold so much.
I have many lost people and always happy to find another. And always
glad to find another cousin.
Thursday, June 02, 2005 5:29 PM KBailey
yes'm I do remember our prior discussions. It has been a long road.
I di plan a trip to Botetourt/Rockbridge late this year---It will be
strictly research---I have no relatives in the area.
If we could get organized----we might could
focus me better. I believe there may be a ton of material at the military school
in lexington based on some fragments I have found in the state lib.
Kenneth
Thursday, June 02, 2005 3:54 PM JoAnn
I agree with Betty, it seems like we are spinning our wheels in
trying to find info on Christopher Rhodes. We all know how a story
about the Indians can be enhanced and I am sure ours has been. I do
have a copy of the original will, it only has Christopher, no George
Christopher.
I would like to see maybe a numbering system on these different
Rhodes Families. Maybe like branch #1, #2 etc, I was in the Doughty
Association and that was the way they did theirs. I like reading
about all the Rhodes Families not just ours, but it does get
confusing. We need to have a list someplace with each oldest member
of the different Rhodes family and who is working on that line.
Maybe post with that # in our subject line. Hopefully we could
connect some of the families to each other!!!
Kenneth, you and I go back a ways looking for your Sarah, I don't
know if you remember or not. I still have my notes and I did find
them, aren't you all proud of me! It was in 2000 when we first talk
to each other on the RHODES-L.
Let's get a little better organized and find Sarah, Christopher's
parents, David Rhodes and all these other lost people.
Thursday, June 02, 2005 2:00 PM KBailey
I agree---I too have 'lost' stuff over the years----for instance--where is
my copy of the James Bradley/Rhodes bond---I am almost certain it was signed by
mark on Christopher's part---but where is it now that I need it?
LOL Kenneth
Thursday, June 02, 2005 1:14 PM Betty
> I think the only possibility of resolving the issues is a long
period of
> access to local records
You are absolutely correct. I've wanted to do that for years and this
fall I am going to spend some time there. But I won't have as much
time as I'd like because I will have to spend some time visiting
relatives. You know how sisters are! I do not want to duplicate
effort. I don't mind re-checking something and it would be good to
have a copy of original documents, but if I had a list of things we
KNOW are in each county, it might cut down on wasted effort.
I would like to sort and prove (if we're gonna dream, dream big!)
three generations, starting with Chris who died in 1831, and maybe get
a lead on who his parents were. I have a lot of people in my database
with no proof and no documentation. 30 years ago, I could tell you
where I got that name, but today? Ha!
We have the story that a Rhodes family was mostly killed by Indians. I
don't know how many versions there are of that story. I like the one
that describes the visit by the 'friendly' Indians and the shooting
match after dinner, when the Indians let the Rhodes men shoot first,
then killed everyone except the son/s who were hiding/playing in the
bushes/trees/behind the pigpen. But it's probably more likely that
they were victims of a surprise attack and one or more of the kids
were not there and managed to survive. Does anyone know where these
stories originate? How many were just repeated and a detail changed
here and there over the years? The important thing would be when and
where it happened.
When/where was the earliest settlement in what is now
Rockbridge/Botetourt? So many of the older books refer to places that
have no meaning to me - where was the Horseshoe Bend? Draper's Meadow?
At least the Natural Bridge has stayed in one place and hasn't changed
names! IF (big IF) Chris was actually 100+ in 1830, he was born about
1730 (hard math!) and would have been part of the wave of German
immigrants from PA into the valleys of VA, or was one of the first
generation to be born in VA. That means he was the little boy who
survived the massacre. Or he was born 20 years later, and that little
boy was his father.
What actual documentation do we have? I have Christopher's will
probated in Botetourt Co in 1831. Was it Sue who said she has one
probated in Kanawha (?) with different names? Does someone have a copy
of the original or just a transcription? What other wills? What deeds?
Do we have personal property tax data for anyone? Any church records?
We are assuming, and probably rightly so, that the Christopher who was
listed as 100+ in 1830, was the one whose will was probated in 1831.
IF it was the same man, and IF the story about the sons moving to
Jackson/Roane about 1832 are correct, WHY was it probated in Kanawha?
Which sons had already moved?
We have a lot of data listed here but much of it is strung out in
different messages and hard to find. Would it be possible to share our
data by uploading what we have into the Files section of this site? A
separate file for separate individuals, places or thing? Both of
Chris's wills in one file or all Botetourt wills or all wills? Sue,
can you do a catagory thing? Maybe a database? It's great to discuss
these things, but I like to look at them again.
If we know what we have, we can make list of what to look for in
Rockbridge/Botetourt Counties.
Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:18 AM KBailey
Hey---I think Christian is 'rollin on the flo'
Kenneth`
Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:12 AM annaroseburg
--- In Rhodes-History@yahoogroups.com, KBailey252@a... wrote:
> First I want to express my admiration for all of you who try to
research the
> Christopher Rhodes issue. I have never been able to make head nor
tails of
> it.It takes a huge amount of dedication and perseverance to even try
to trace
> this group. I sometimes wonder what may have occurred considering
that many
> people slipped through records for decades at a time and the
possibility
> that some may have been missed through their entire lives.
>
> I think the only possibility of resolving the issues is a long
period of
> access to local records
> and that is not a possibility for me from Texas. It has taken
decades to
> trail parts of my family through the Comanche, civil, reconstruction
maze of
> Texas and I am still not through.
>
> I have to have hope that Rhodes/Bailey researchers will be able to
help me
> get my family out of Botetourt county Virginia and earlier. Please
don't
> quit----anyone.
>
> Kenneth
Dear Kenneth
I really won't quit, but it does get very frustrating. I just walk
away for a little breather and then go back to it. And we really never
get through. I have never been to Botetourt Co. nor Rockbridge either
for that matter. I am about 3 1/2 hours from Jackson & Roane Co Wv
where several Rhodes families settled. Sometimes births and deaths
were just not recorded, we have found that here in my little corner of
Ohio. Families just spread apart and didn't know anything about each
other. The census just sometimes missed people. It would be nice if
someone would write a book on Rhodes like the Tolley book that Angela
Ruley wrote with documentation of where she got the records.
Thanks. The Christophers might laugh if hey could see us scrambling
trying to find bits and pieces of info about them.
Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:15 AM KBailey
First I want to express my admiration for all of you who try to research the
Christopher Rhodes issue. I have never been able to make head nor tails of
it.It takes a huge amount of dedication and perseverance to even try to trace
this group. I sometimes wonder what may have occurred considering that many
people slipped through records for decades at a time and the possibility
that some may have been missed through their entire lives.
I think the only possibility of resolving the issues is a long period of
access to local records
and that is not a possibility for me from Texas. It has taken decades to
trail parts of my family through the Comanche, civil, reconstruction maze of
Texas and I am still not through.
I have to have hope that Rhodes/Bailey researchers will be able to help me
get my family out of Botetourt county Virginia and earlier. Please don't
quit----anyone.
Kenneth
Thursday, June 02, 2005 8:22 AM annaroseburg
--- In Rhodes-History@yahoogroups.com, "JoAnn" <jones.j@p...> wrote:
> Anna,
> Glad to hear someone else is confused and please don't tear up
> anything. We are suppose to be having fun ........
>
> -- In Rhodes-History@yahoogroups.com, "annaroseburg"
> <aroseburg@r...> wrote:
> > Was the Christopher 1724 the one that married Rebecca Neese?
> > Who were their children?
>
> I don't know about this, Christopher and Rebecca Neese married
> 4/20/1801. Their dau Lorina was born 1820 that would make
> Christopher very old, 96.
>
> >
> > Christopher the father of the Sarah that married James Bailey. If
> it
> > was Christopher and Catherine Peters, then Sarah Elizabeth "Sukey"
> > 1811 must have been just Elizabeth (married Archibald Thomas.)That
> > Christopher seems the most likely candidate. Although there has
> been
> > instances where the children in families had the same first name
> and
> > went by the middle names.
>
> Yes, I thought about looking where I got the name Sarah Elizabeth,
> in somethings I have seen "Betsey" for a nickname instead of "Sukey".
> Sue said this was a German custom to name some of the daughters the
> same name and use their middle name.
>
>
> > Sure wish they had been more creative in their naming practices.
> > I have the following Christophers
> > *Christopher Christian 1724
> > *Christopher Peter 1772 (Md Catherine Peters son of Christopher
> Christian)
> > *Christopher J 1793 (Md Patience Tolley son of George Christopher)
> > *George Christopher 1760 (Md Susannah Peters, son of Christopher
> > Christian)
> > *Philip Christopher (son of Christopher and Patience
> > *Christopher R (son of Benjamin and Nancy Golden)
> > If there are more I missed them.
> > Sorry this is repititious. I am ready to tear up something. I
> should
> > just copy everything and try to sort it out.
>
> I have dropped the Christian, dropped the Peter from Christopher (m)
> Catherine Peters, dropped the Christopher from George (m) Susannah
> Peters and I am sure to use their wifes name with them to keep from
> getting so confused. Lots of Samuels, Benjamins, Jacobs too!!
Hi JoAnn
It does get to be frustrating because we try to make sure we get it
right. I had a picture of Archibald and Sarah? Elizabeth in the old
info I lost, and so far not been able to find it again. I guess I need
to step back and take a fresh look.
KBailey
Thursday, June 02, 2005 5:56 AM
Just an interesting note that three of Sarah T Rhodes (Bailey) had variants
of Mary for first names--
Kenneth
Wednesday, June 01, 2005 9:20 PM Sue Moore
Yes, that is Zachariah Rhodes, Jr. By the way his wife was born in
Rockbridge and suppose to be a Rhodes. Just thought I would add to everyone
confusion.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes-History@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Rhodes-History@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of JoAnn
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 9:19 PM
To: Rhodes-History@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Rhodes-History] Re: David Rhoades b. abt 1805 PA
Sue,
Could this Zachariah Rhodes Jr. be the one that is in Jackson Co.
(W)VA in the 1850 Census? The age is right
#531-536
Zachariah Roads 50 M Farmer VA
Margaret 40 F PA
Daniel 21 M Farmer VA
David 18 M Farmer Va
John 14 M
James 11 M
Rebecca 6 F
Larrina 4 F
Delila 1 F
--- In Rhodes-History@yahoogroups.com, "Sue Moore" <sue.moore@m...>
wrote:
>
> This maybe help some and give you some clues.
>
> Here is what I have on David --
>
> I Zachariah Rhodes, Sr. b 7/13/1756 Washington co. MD d 1833
Jackson co. VA
> md to Elizabeth Rea. Zachariah was in the REV WAR. (I haven't
found proof
> that David was Zachariah son, but David did name a son Zachariah)
> Children -- 1. Zachariah Rhodes, Jr. b 1800 2. Samuel Rhodes b abt
> 1795 3. Joseph Rhodes b abt 1805 4. David Rhodes b 1805 in PA Maybe
> other children
> -----
> 4. David md Rachel b abt 1810 PA and Sarah Children by Rachel A. Sarah
> 1825 VA B. Benjamin 1827 VA md 8/14/1851 Meigs co. OH to Susannah
> Offett C. Jincy abt 1830 VA md 1/22/1852 Meigs co. OH to Alva A Miller
> D. Frances abt 1832 VA E. Dorothy abt 1833 VA md 5/15/1853 John
> Haskins F. Zachariah abt 1835 OH md 12/18/1856 Caroline V Sayre G.
> Malinda abt 1841 md 3/5/1857 Meigs co. OH to John Bowles H. Samuel abt
> 1847 OH Children by Sarah I. Francis 1854 PA J. David 1854 PA K.
> Thomas 1857 PA L. George 1857 PA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes-History@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Rhodes-
History@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of C. K.
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 9:28 AM
> To: Rhodes-History@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Rhodes-History] David Rhoades b. abt 1805 PA
>
> I am looking for the parents of David Rhoades [born about 1805 in
PA
> according to the 1850 census] and when and where he was married.
>
> I know he was married at least twice, once to Rachel Woodruff abt
> 1825 -- actual date and location unknown and second to Sarah Ann
Banks March
> 06, 1853, Meigs Co., Ohio.
>
> Rachel was married before she married David. Rachel married Jacob
Starcher
> February 11, 1823 Mason Co. WV he died May 25, 1825.
>
> Rachel was born in Greene Co. PA but her father moved to Mason Co.
WV by
> 1812 as they are listed on the 1812 tax list. They lived to Mason
Co. until
> the move to Meigs Co. by the 1830 census.
>
> Rachel died January 05, 1850 and is buried next to her mother in
Bicknell
> Cemetery in Lebanon Twp. along the Ohio River near Ravenswood WV.
I also
> believe her father is in the same cemetery although no tombstone is
> standing.
>
> Rachel and David had 7 children according to the 1850 census Sarah
Benjamin
> Jincy Frances Dorothy Ann Zachariah Melinda C.
>
> That puts Rachel in Mason Co about the time of her marriage to
David but I
> cannot find a listing for them in Mason Co.
>
> If anyone can help identify the parents of David I would greatly
appreciate
> the help. I will be happy to share the information I do have with
those
> interested.
>
> Thanks and you all have a great day. Connie
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